Groovy Zone - Comments for "Groovy / Grails Update from G2One at the No Fluff Just Stuff Meetup"

Grails is certainly some

eightbit — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:39:40 -0400

Grails is certainly some great stuff for most use cases, but I keep smacking my head against the wall when I need to account for those tricky edge cases. I've spent the last few days chasing snap-shot builds to get things like annotations working on groovy domain classes. Also, some of the generated views and controllers can be a slippery slope.

Overall, it's a fantastic technology, I'm not ready to use it for every project, but it can certainly get the easier tasks done very quickly. I'm looking foward to what the future will bring.

I attended several

bootz15 — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:16:25 -0400

I attended several Groovy/Grails sessions at the recent JavaOne 2008, and I was really impressed. It makes me giddy to start programming again! Of course, as the article stated, there will always be a small performance hit when running Groovy (on top of Java), but historically that argument has always fallen down when hardware speeds up (which it always does). So in the request-response cycle of a typical page or Ajax request, the speed "hit" is really just a rounding error. Furthermore, we hear a lot about the "user experience" -- I like how Groovy focuses on the "developer experience". (Which is why I feel the giddiness, I suppose). IMHO, it's better to save development time and throw another server on than to slow a developer down and save a server, if you know what I mean.

The features of Groovy that I really love and were not mentioned in this post are:

the ability to intercept method calls (a la AOP) and even catch missing method calls and add them dynamically to the object!
function pointers (very similar to the "closure" concept)
no need to write setters and getters on POJO/POGO properties (but you always can if you need extra logic there)

Grails is a stunning piece of work, too. Definitely going to keep my eye on this stuff. It's really cool.

I was also in attendance and

jeervin — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:03:29 -0400

I was also in attendance and had some comments myself.

http://iacobus.blogspot.com/2008/05/remarks-from-groovy-meetup-before.html

I am really impressed at how Groovy feels like it is ready for prime-time, unlike its state soon after Java One in 2004 where I was first exposed to it. Also the statistics on Grails, wow! It shows that it is a platform that can do alot of what people like about RoR without the issues that have become so apparent these days.